1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,000 This is Hacker Public Radio episode 3,763 for Wednesday, the 4th of January 2023. 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,920 Today's show is entitled, The Bottle Mind Hall Phenomenon. 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,400 It is hosted by Mike Ray and is about 13 minutes long. 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,200 It carries an explicit flag. 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:42,400 The summary is, a looking to this psychological Phenomenon. 6 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:48,000 Hello and welcome to Hacker Public Radio. 7 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:59,000 HCR is a crowd-sourced podcast, in which people like you and me and everybody else who can, 8 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:07,000 and that's everybody, provides or sends in podcasts, little recordings, long recordings, 9 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:15,600 about any second of interest to the Hacker community. 10 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:22,600 My name is Mike Ray and it's a very long time since I did an HPR podcast. 11 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Most of my podcasts in the past have been about technical subjects. 12 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,800 This is about the psychological Phenomenon. 13 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:38,800 Now I should point out that it is gone, which well passed 10 o'clock on Christmas Eve. 14 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:46,200 I'm several bottles of hoaxback, traditional English ale and about a third of a bowl of 20-year-old 15 00:01:46,200 --> 00:02:00,400 port to the better, so I might be slightly incoherent anyway. 16 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,600 The Bottle Mind Hall Phenomenon. 17 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:13,800 Now this is something which I can guarantee that if you are of any age, you will hear 18 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:22,600 my description of it and you will go, oh yeah, that's happened to me. 19 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,000 And I should explain the name, the Bottle Mind Hall Phenomenon. 20 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:35,400 Now the name Bottle Mind Hall to older listeners like me will be reminiscent of the late 60s, 21 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:41,200 early 70s or the whole of the 70s, really, and the early 80s. 22 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:48,600 They were a group who liked to call themselves the Red Army faction. 23 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:55,400 They were labeled at the Bottle Mind Hall Phenomenon, or the Bottle Mind Hall Group by journalists. 24 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:01,600 They were responsible in the 60s and 70s and into the 80s for a number of what might 25 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:10,400 be described as terrorist atrocities, assassinations, attempted bombings, successful bombings 26 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:21,000 of places in and around Western and Eastern Germany, particularly East Germany, but of course 27 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:26,000 one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and we're not going to get involved 28 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,800 in that discussion here. 29 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Now this Phenomenon is known as the Bottle Mind Hall Phenomenon because it was in 1994, a man 30 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:46,080 wrote to a newspaper and mentioned that he had heard mention of the Bottle Mind Hall 31 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Group or scene mention of it, which ever and thereafter seemed to be hearing about it multiple 32 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:03,800 times and hence it was given the label the Bottle Mind Hall Phenomenon. 33 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:18,000 Later that in 2005 it was Chris and the Frequency Illusion. 34 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:30,760 So to describe what the Bottle Mind Hall's illusion or Phenomenon is in simple terms. 35 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:38,800 About 18 months ago I was talking to a friend of mine called Emma and we were discussing 36 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:49,240 talking about some of what I consider to be my legacy skills and one legacy skill in particular 37 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,960 which is Cobalt. 38 00:04:50,960 --> 00:05:01,040 I was originally trained in 1991 for about 12 months at college, at the Royal National College 39 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:09,520 for the blind and visually impaired as a Cobalt programmer and I mentioned Cobalt to Emma 40 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,240 and she'd never heard of it. 41 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:18,040 The next time I spoke to her a bit a month after that she said that you know we spoke 42 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:23,200 about Cobalt she's like I heard it several times after that I was standing on a railway 43 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:31,080 station in particular so she told me and there were a couple of guys behind me on the platform 44 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:36,400 and I heard them talking about Cobalt and then on the radio a couple of weeks later I 45 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:47,600 heard it mentioned again and Emma is I think in her late 30s I was already 40s possibly 46 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:53,360 and until I mentioned Cobalt to her she had never heard of it and then seemed to be hearing 47 00:05:53,360 --> 00:06:00,560 it all over the place so that is the Phenomenon and that is why it's called the Frequency 48 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Illusion it's something which you hear or see usually on there I might be the name 49 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:19,280 of a city the name of river a country a rock group a song programming language as in 50 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:29,120 my course or something else and then you take note of it having never heard of it before 51 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,320 and then after that you seem to be hearing about it all the time or coming across it quite 52 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:42,280 frequently a very strange phenomenon now I have experienced several times in my life 53 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:49,720 and the only one I can think of at the moment is the word interlocutor now interlocutor 54 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:55,320 means if you're having a conversation with somebody the person you're having a conversation 55 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:03,400 with is your interlocutor I first came across the word when I read some HD wells 56 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:12,280 at the age of about 25 possibly so over 25 yeah well over 25 years ago but thereafter 57 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,680 I was going to be hearing the word interlocutor a lot and I think it's mentioned in 58 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:22,960 the Sherlock Holmes canon but yeah I must have heard or seen the word interlocutor before 59 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:29,440 that I just didn't make note of it but because when I was reading the HD wells and saw 60 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,480 the word I didn't know what it meant so I made a note of it and went and looked for it 61 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:45,760 for the definition and then seemed to be coming across it thereafter quite frequently 62 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:56,560 so I've explained the phenomenon now let's talk about what psychologists think of this 63 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:10,040 and why it occurs so I could just say that the responsibility of it falls with two cognitive 64 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:22,880 biases the first of these two cognitive biases is selective attention bias and that is the 65 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:29,120 effective noticing things which are important to us so when you think that you've heard 66 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:37,600 before and are familiar with you will hear again and the most noticeable of course 67 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:44,600 of these selective attention bias is the thing that we all know and we all experience 68 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:52,880 and that is hearing our name spoken from the other side of a crowded room where there is a lot 69 00:08:52,880 --> 00:09:00,160 of chatter you will hear your name over and above the chatter which you are disregarding 70 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:07,320 which as background noise so that's selective attention bias paying attention to things 71 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:18,080 which are important to us the second of these cognitive biases is confirmation bias 72 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:29,320 not by us by us confirmation bias and that is paying attention to things which reinforce 73 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:38,040 our predisposition our current belief and disregarding anything that contradicts it so that's 74 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:48,280 the second of the cognitive biases which give rise to the bottom line of phenomenon it's 75 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:57,880 thought to be almost entirely harmless although it does impact people with the worst kind 76 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:08,120 of content court it's called at the moment schizophrenia people with the worst kind 77 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:16,840 of schizophrenia can suffer from poor effects created or brought on by the bottom line 78 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:29,440 of phenomenon so there you go a phenomenon which I am absolutely confident if you are 79 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:37,720 of any age unless you are very young a child or young adult you will have experience 80 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:45,800 just phenomenon and you will have made a mental note of it probably very casually but 81 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:52,800 you have you have probably like me in the early days not really understood why something 82 00:10:52,800 --> 00:11:02,080 that you had not heard before or never heard of before is suddenly heard all the time 83 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:09,880 now this is a function of how your brain actually works a lot of people regard human 84 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:22,480 brain as being like a disc drive which you absolutely is not it's almost like velcro it 85 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:32,080 consists of hooks and loops and things become connected synapses little chunks of memory 86 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:46,800 are connected by association patterns where absolutely as humans designed to recognize patterns 87 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:56,880 and these associations build up in the brain so Emma my friend again on the telephone 88 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:05,400 conversation with me would have heard me talking about cobalt so when she then heard it 89 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:16,400 on a railway station was subject to that synaptic connection in her brain between me 90 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:24,880 a close friend and cobalt being fired and she immediately paid attention to the fact 91 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:30,160 that they were two guys standing on the railway platform somewhere close to where she was 92 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:38,320 standing talking about cobalt whereas in her 30 odd years 40 odd years she must have heard 93 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:50,640 the name cobalt before but I had no synaptic or no brain patterns in her brain which caused 94 00:12:50,640 --> 00:13:00,320 that connection to your that connection to be fired so that's the way the brain works 95 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:09,960 so there we go bottom line of phenomenon a very interesting psychological effect or phenomenon 96 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:19,720 which I am again absolutely confidently you are familiar with anyway this has been 97 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:30,480 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